Coolest Conversation Ever – Podcast Episode with Cathy Heller

Some conversations are life-changing. My talk with Cathy Heller from the Don’t Keep Your Day Job podcast was exactly that. Cathy’s podcast is about being in alignment with your true self, finding a way to do your life's work and taking your passion and making a profit. Since that’s what my company is all about, it’s not an understatement to say that she and I were an amazing match. We talked about so many incredible things: learning from failure, abandoning perfectionism, overcoming imposter syndrome…. The list could go on and on and on. Our time together just flew by. I was so excited and inspired by our conversation and I’m so happy it’s out in the world for everyone to hear. You can listen to the full episode here. There are all kinds of great highlights from the episode because Cathy is just so easy to talk to. In each of her episodes (one of my favorites is the one with Martha Beck) she sums it up at the end with 10 takeaways. I’ve decided to list five below. They are based on my own journey with starting my business in 2002 and writing my book:

  1. Take a chance and go for it. What’s the worst that could happen? It’s so much better to take a chance on one of your passions then to soldier on in safety and never venture beyond your comfort zone.

  2. It’s okay to hit pause. Take time to make something out of your memories. We live in a culture that emphasizes being busy all the time. It’s important to value stillness, calm, and self-reflection just as much as work ethic.

  3. Have a strong vision for your end goal. It’s super important to know where you’re going and what you’d like to accomplish. Keeping your goal in mind helps you accomplish tasks— big and small.

  4. Find out where your heart sings. Make it a part of your every day. At one point in our conversation, I said, “Everybody has their own unique story to tell; everybody has their own unique journey and if we don’t share those gifts, then what good is it inside of you?” I truly believe that it is vital to spend your time doing things you love and sharing that passion and joy with others.

  5. Give yourself permission to explore and share with the world. Great things never come from comfort zones. I told Cathy about my move to Los Angeles and how at age 25, within a week of arriving, the job I’d counted on was no longer available. After crying to my dad, he eventually told me, “You’re just lost in the right place.” And he was totally right! I had been pushed out of my comfort zone to accomplish bigger and better things, things I never would have attempted without a push.

There are way more incredible points from our conversation, so I really encourage you to listen to the episode if you have time. Cathy’s podcast is amazing and I relished the opportunity to sit down and talk to her. You can find Don't Keep Your Day Job on iTunes and her website. Another amazing takeaway was that Cathy encouraged me to think about starting my own podcast. I really liked the idea and it was very cool to hear from an experienced podcaster. So, what do you think— would you listen to an Amy Tangerine podcast? Let me know in the comments below!

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